These are a bit baggy in the crotch, but the girls just roll them up at the waist. (Im a size 5, 5'3, and I fit a youth lg) definitely size down for women. Overall a great product. Very warm on cold winter mornings, and they take HPV well. I'd recommend a different style if you're looking for something closer to joggers. I only gave 4 stars because of the saggy crotch.